How to confuse / mislead people with statistics…
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How to confuse / mislead people with statistics…
https://www.statisticshowto.com/calculate-relative-risk/
Karen Hadley writes: Carl Sagan describes the problem with modern education. I never lost my curiosity. My eclectic curiosity can make me a little random or non-sequitur at times but that’s okay with me. Being this way makes me a much better writer because if I want to, I can get curious about almost anything. And that curiosity triggers study, understanding, development of a viewpoint and then the ability to write about that topic.
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Dear Mr Joyce,
I am very concerned as a long term Qantas flier, a long term advocate of Qantas and health researcher over your claims to have a “Vaccine Passport”. Clearly you have received some poor information not based on the science and have made a very rash and potentially damaging and dangerous decision.
Firstly, this vaccine has been pushed and rushed at “Warp Speed”, without proper or long-term testing, and the high risks to the public that such a rushed medication carries. The vaccine touted for use is an RNA (genetically) based vaccine, something that has never ever been released to the public before. It is experimental. The medium and long-term effects of this gene-altering vaccine on our bodies is completely unknown.
Secondly, the vaccine does not stop people from carrying the disease nor does it stop the spread. It is designed to stop a person catching the illness. Despite 50 years of flu vaccine it still goes around every year as do all respiratory viruses and they mutate as this virus is already doing and it continues to go around. A person who has multiple vaccines for Covid 19 can still carry the virus and in fact get sick and die from the virus. Let me make it plainer. A substantial body of research has shown that having health professionals vaccinated did not under any circumstances alter the course or spread of the flu virus.
Thirdly, the vast majority of the claims about the effectiveness of the vaccines are both embellished and using statistics that you are unfamiliar with. According to comments published in the British Medical Journal last week (see the link below) the vaccine is not very effective. While the information from Pfizer’s looks impressive when you do the real numbers the absolute risk reduction for an individual is only about 0.4% (0.0043-0.0004=0.0039). The Number Needed To Vaccinate (NNTV) = 256 (1/0.0039), which means that to prevent just 1 Covid-19 case 256 individuals must get the vaccine; the other 255 individuals derive no benefit, but are subject to vaccine adverse effects. And this is to do with cases not even death. It will be even less effective for death. Probably around 1 in 4000 like the flu vaccine. These are facts in the scientific journals which I can provide any time and in fact publish them regularly on my social media groups.
Finally, catching the illness is not the problem it is the major health conditions that occur in a relatively small group in our society that is most susceptible that is the problem. After reviewing hundreds of papers the most susceptible group, other than those which severe medical conditions, are those over 75 with, according to the US Centre For Disease Control, 2.5 comorbidities. That is the elderly who are already very sick and who in most cases are not going to be flying anyway. That is why the majority of deaths in Australia and around the world have ben in elderly care (not a good word) facilities. For the vast majority of the population it is a mild illness with fewer complications than the annual flu. This is substantiated in the studies and multiple health professionals including an official statement by the Chief Health Officer of NSW Dr Kerry Chant that this is “a mild illness”.
On a logistic note will the passport be for the current version of the Covid 19 virus or the last years virus which effectively is what the flu vaccine is? You will need multiple passports for each travel people do.
While Australia is currently free from Covid 19 the vaccine will not prevent the spread once the borders open to international travel. This is well recognised in the scientific and health community.
Clearly you have just relied on very poor information and made a very damaging and dangerous comment. I would suggest before this goes any further you consult the science. I have reviewed hundreds of studies on the topic and derive no gain or support from my information. Unlike the people selling you your information I am happy to provide you with free unadulterated independent information, which by the way is supported by a large portion of the community that you think you are protecting.
I have no doubt that you made your comment with the best intentions. You just relied on very poor information. In the best interest of Qantas and Australians I seriously suggest you review your situation and make a public retraction very soon.
Peter Dingle PhD
Here is a link you can follow https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4347/rr-4
Covid-19 vaccine candidate is unimpressive: NNTV is around 256
It is not enough to merely agree on this. We, every single one of us, needs to make our voice herard if we are to retain our freedoms!
Email the Qantas CEO at: alanjoyce@qantas.com.au
Post on the facebook fan page at facebook.com/Qantas
Message Qantas support at: https://www.qantas.com/au/en/support/contact-us/customer-care-feedback-form.html?int_cam=contact-us-feedback
This is about the level of scientific credibility that should be assigned to it. Nah, on second thoughts, idol worship does not harm your children anywhere near as much as vaccines do.
Posted by a friend this morning:
“To follow up with what I wrote the other day about Ted Cruz saying that the Trump legal team was an “unorthodox” group to be bringing this case, by themselves to the Supreme Court. Cruz was lamenting that the small group of lawyers defending the president is not the group Cruz would expect for such a landmark case as this.
THEN, I read a little piece about that all Conservative and Constitutional lawyers were being harassed, doxed and their families were being threatened. Any lawyer who would dare defend Trump’s re-count was looking at ending their careers. The serious Marxist tactics have been successful in keeping GOP, Conservative, elected politicians, or Trump supporters away from the proceedings. Case in point, not one GOP official appeared when massive marches were organized in DC only a few weeks ago. The Left has effectively scared away any GOPs who have high profiles by threatening their livelihood and safety.
Then, the media kept chanting, “there is no evidence,” before the evidence has been presented. I began reading how people who wanted to come forward have been prevented from doing so, because they also were threatened. People had come forward, and then backed out, when they realized that they would have to become public. Sidney Powell has actually had to put some witnesses in witness protection because of the threats.
The chant: there is no evidence, is part of an organized, Progressive Marxist method of demanding more and more evidence to prove even the most minuscule point. No amount of evidence would ever be enough to please them, because the evidence would destroy their concept, their agenda. The plan is to discredit anyone who supports President Trump, so to try and expose the illegal, coordinated, organized and systemic cabal that changed the results of an election is going to be the highest bar anyone has ever had to clear.
Ted Cruz might be correct. We may have an unorthodox group of lawyers and volunteers defending the president. Unorthodox maybe just what we need in this case. Who else could inspire people against threats to their safety to defend not only his presidency but to defend our Republic? If passion can prepare the case of the century, the group we have is the perfect group, and we should be appreciative of every one of them for following principle over comfort. Looking at the huge bar they must clear, I am amazed at what they are taking on.
You might be wondering what the CIA, FBI and Justice Department have been doing.”
(Tom: I pass this on to show the utter and extreme hypocrisy of the communists who would like to install totalitarian rule and see the US freedom as standing in the way.)
Here is my issue with the whole, “let us all be a United States again” that we heard from Joe Biden.
For the last 4+ years, the Democrats have gone scorched earth. You have salted the fields and now you want to grow crops.
The problem is 72+ million of us have memories longer than a hamster.
We remember the women’s march (vagina hats and all) the day after inauguration.
We remember the 4 years of attacks and impeachments
We remember “not our president” and the “Resistance…”
We remember Maxie Walters telling followers to harass us in restaurants.
We remember the President’s spokesperson being kicked out a restaurant.
We remember hundreds of Trump supporters physically attacked.
We remember Trump supporters getting Doxed, and fired from jobs.
We remember riots, and looting
We remember “a comedian” holding up the President’s severed head
We remember a play in Central park paid with public funding, showing the killing of President Trump
We remember Robert de Niro yelling “F” Trump” at the Tony’s and getting a standing ovation.
We remember Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union Address.
We remember the total in the tank move on the mainstream media
We remember the non-stop and live fact checking on our President and his supporters.
We remember non-stop in your face lies and open cover-ups from the media.
We remember the President and his staff being spied on.
We remember five Senators shot on a ballfield.
We remember every so-called comedy show turn into nothing but Trump hate fest.
We remember 95% negative coverage in the news.
We remember the state governors asking and getting everything they ask for and then blaming Trump for their problems.
We remember a Trump top aid verbally assaulted in two DC restaurants.
We remember people banging on the Supreme Court doors.
We remember that we were called every name in the book for supporting President Trump.
We remember that Hollywood said they would leave after Trump was elected but they stayed.
This list is endless, but you get the idea.
My friends will be my friends, but a party that has been on the attack for 4 long years does not get a free pass with me!
If you do not believe this whole COVID response is a complete and utter plandemic/scam, please read again the text in this image and the previous article: http://www.tomgrimshaw.com/tomsblog/?p=30703
(Tom: Further proof that the whole COVID-19 response is a planned control operation.)
According to new data, the U.S. currently ranks first in total COVID-19 cases, new cases per day and deaths. Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Hopkins, critically analyzed the effect of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in her webinar titled “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data.”
From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.
She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States.
Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.
These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
This from the group MPs and Councillors Shame and Scandal.
The government’s hoax is now thoroughly exposed. For the few people left who still think despite all the evidence that they can afford to trust anything the compulsive liars masquerading as our government tell them here is a handy list of questions to bear in mind the next time BJ goes on telly and lies to your face
“If you still think Covid is very dangerous then ask yourself these questions;
Why are GP’s not isolating? dying?
Why are frontline staff not isolating? dying?
Why are police officers not isolating? dying?
Why are soldiers not isolating? dying?
Why are bus drivers not isolating? dying?
Why are most hospitals empty?
Why are testing centres empty?
Why is it that 96% of people testing positive are mask wearers?
Why is it bacterial pneumonia is on the rise because of mask wearing? Yet it’s kept hush hush.
Why is it that large conglomerates can stay open whilst small businesses of the same industry are bullied into shutting?
Why is it that the biggest censorship campaign is now in force?
Why is it that the ‘Great Reset’ is being openly advertised yet people still deny it?
Why is it that in Wuhan people were dropping dead in the streets yet it’s happening nowhere else?
Why is it that our police force has undergone a huge militarisation?
Why has police brutality skyrocketed?
Why are the fact-check websites funded by the same elites that are funding the media for pro covid propaganda?
Why is Google blacklisting well documented science that disproves all this pro covid science?
Why is Google blacklisting anything that questions the narrative?
If this virus was so deadly then why;
Would you need a test to tell you that you’ve got it?
Why are graveyards and crematoriums not overflowing?
Why are hospitals not overwhelmed to the point of everything else is fully cancelled?
Why are people not dropping dead like in Wuhan?
Why do you need an app to tell you to isolate?
Why has China gone back to ‘normal’ without a vaccine?
Why has Covid-19 never been isolated?
“Hell on earth is looking in the mirror and wondering what could have been.”