{"id":47551,"date":"2023-12-06T20:24:06","date_gmt":"2023-12-06T09:24:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/?p=47551"},"modified":"2023-12-06T20:24:06","modified_gmt":"2023-12-06T09:24:06","slug":"dennis-meadows-interview-p4-4-a-peaceful-collapse-many-revolutions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/?p=47551","title":{"rendered":"Dennis Meadows Interview p4\/4 (A &#8216;peaceful collapse&#8217; &#038; many revolutions&#8230;)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Key member of the Club of Rome, Dennis Meadows, hopes the &#8220;necessary&#8221; depopulation of the planet, down to one billion\u2014an 87.5% reduction from today\u2019s population\u2014can &#8220;occur in a civil way&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The planet can support something like a billion people, maybe two billion, depending on how much liberty and how much material consumption you want to have.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you want more liberty, and more consumption, you have to have fewer people. And conversely, you can have more people. I mean, we could even have eight or nine billion, probably if we have a very strong dictatorship.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Dennis Meadows Interview p4\/4 (A &#039;peaceful collapse&#039; &amp; many revolutions...)\" width=\"525\" height=\"295\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Dbo6uvJBtZg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Key member of the Club of Rome, Dennis Meadows, hopes the &#8220;necessary&#8221; depopulation of the planet, down to one billion\u2014an 87.5% reduction from today\u2019s population\u2014can &#8220;occur in a civil way&#8221;. &#8220;The planet can support something like a billion people, maybe two billion, depending on how much liberty and how much material consumption you want to &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/?p=47551\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Dennis Meadows Interview p4\/4 (A &#8216;peaceful collapse&#8217; &#038; many revolutions&#8230;)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47551","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general-interest"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47551","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=47551"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47551\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48093,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47551\/revisions\/48093"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=47551"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=47551"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.tomgrimshaw.com\/tomsblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=47551"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}